>> the meeting is scheduled i believe in new york city although i don't know the exact date and details. liz: will you come? >> i will not come but i may be involved by phone. we haven't worked out any of the details. liz: you should be there and show up with a bunch of sisters and really -- you could get some real action where frankly perhaps much larger shareholder institutional shareholders have not gotten action. you guys do $9 million in stock and add to that position, but you could really have an effect here because of the obvious. you are a group of nuns and that would be horrible pr for city. >> right. liz: is that something you would take into consideration? coming here and showing them you mean business? >> that is a possibility. we need to work out the details for that. >> we're still working on timing all that. is something certainly we think is very positive that would they entered a dialogue as a response to their filing of the resolution. liz: brand new ceo did make some moves. it hurts people to have layoffs but in a 11,000 layoffs. that turned out to be only 4% of the c